Old Bathing Pool Site - Part 2 (15 April 2025)



The Council have not yet published the development brief that forms the basis of West Marina St Leonards Ltd (WMSLL) proposals, something that is essential if the community is to fully understand what is proposed. So, at the moment we are limited to a simple comparison of those proposals with the statements in the Draft Local Plan. The two most relevant sections being the Site Allocation description (HL9) and the West Marina and West St Leonards Focus Area Statement (FA4). For now we will not comment in any detail on the total lack of design quality.
FA4 includes these statements:
“1. The Council will support development of residential uses alongside commercial, leisure and cultural uses which attract residents from the wider Borough and visitors to Hastings.”
The use of the word ‘alongside’ implies the greatest weight should be given, not to residential use, but to the commercial, leisure and cultural uses that would attract more visitors to the area. It is obvious that a mere housing estate would not do that.
“2. The Seaside Road site (HL9) and the adjacent Cinque Ports Way site (HL11) are central to the delivery of aspirations for the Focus Area. A co-ordinated development of these sites is envisaged….”
The developer makes no mention of this, though if the Council failed to include this in their brief they failed to provide an opportunity for the developer to propose “a co-ordinated development”. This failure must be addressed by the Council.
“3. New high quality open spaces should be provided in the Focus Area including:
A. A new central square at the heart of the Seaside Road site (HL9) (over the undevelopable waste water reservoir) should incorporate a landscape character of sand and shingle, planting and material drawing on the seaside setting….”
The proposals offer a square of astro-turf and a catalogue derived play area that is no larger than the existing. This can in no way be construed as a “high quality open space”.
The Site Allocation description for site HL9 also includes this statement:
“Provide a public realm and promenade that is attractive and inviting to residents and tourists that should also act as a way of protecting views along the seafront.”
Apart from the existing walkway and cycleway there is effectively no public realm, just a few bits of SLOAP – space left over after planning. Those areas of land where it was impossible to cram on any more housing.
The lack of a “landmark building”, as referred to in the Focus Area statement, misses an opportunity to create a visual focal point for West St Leonards when viewed along the promenade from Hastings.
“4. Within the Seaside Road site (HL9) development ranging from 2-3 storey houses to 4-5 storey apartment blocks may be appropriate; these should not dominate the site. There is a potential for a taller landmark building to the West of the site HL11 at Cinque Ports Way…”
The site is more than dominated by housing, it is completely lost under a sub-urban housing estate. There is no indication of a “landmark building” as the potential offered by site HL11 has not been considered.
The Site Allocation description for site HL9 also includes this statement:
“Explore opportunities for coordinating development with the Cinque Ports Way site (HL11)…”
The failure to enable this lies with the Council. A piecemeal approach to development, particularly within a declared Neighbourhood Plan area, shows a failure to grasp the major benefits of a coordinated approach.
“5. The seafront walkway and cycleway should be retained and enhanced…”
One of the developers illustrative sketches shows cars parked along one edge of this route. This would be a most significant retrograde step. Not only would it offer no enhancement but would destroy the existing benefits of the cycleway and footpath.
“6. Car parking should be minimised in this Focus Area given the high public transport accessibility. Where parking is provided, integrated sensitively into the wider design…”
There is a high provision of private parking laid out in a typical sub-urban housing estate fashion, all intrusively visible from what little public realm is left over after swamping the site with housing.
“7. Seawall improvements … and other flood and coastal change risk mitigation measures should be factored in to development across this focus area..”
The proposal make no mention of seawall improvements, and there is no indication of what flood mitigation measures are proposed despite the fact that the live-work units are to be sited immediately on the beach frontage and the whole of the site is within a Flood Zone 3 category.
Conclusion:
Whilst this ‘first reveal’ of the developer’s proposals is described by them as ‘”schematic” it is a woefully inadequate basis for any meaningful public consultation. To make an informed assessment the community need far more information to be provided by the developer and the Council. As a minimum this should include:
a. The details of the calculation used to arrive at the number of housing units proposed in the Adopted Local Plan and the emerging Draft Local Plan, which differ.
b. The development brief issued by the Council to the developer.
c. The developer’ flood risk assessment and the Environment Agency’s response to it.
d. The reason for the Council shifting the proposed focus of development from tourism and leisure led to housing led.
e. Are Homes England involved in the prop0sals? If not, why not?
Old Bathing Pool Site - Part 1 (5 April 2025)


HUDG are fully supportive of a redevelopment of the Old Bathing Pool (OBP) site that would benefit the local and wider community of Hastings and St Leonards, as are most local residents. Unfortunately, the proposals revealed by the Generator Group on Tuesday 29th April at the Electro Studios fail to meet that aspiration. Many attendees from the local community expressed similar negative views.
Whilst we appreciate the difficulties presented by the site it is often overcoming such challenges that can deliver a unique design with a sense of place, but here we have a typical sub-urban housing estate tacked on to a unique coastal location that fails to recognize the site’s potential.
Which brings us to the shift of intent behind the proposals. The Council’s original intent was for the development to be “tourism and leisure led” but now the proposals are “residential led” with tourism and leisure taking second place. The Council used their original intent to avoid applying the sequential flood risk assessment test for housing sites located in a flood risk zone. The shift of emphasis should have triggered the sequential test, but apparently it didn’t.
This is just one of many questionable decisions by the Council in respect of this site. In 2020 formal discussions commenced between the local community and HBC concerning the creation of a Neighbourhood Plan (NP) for West St Leonards. HBC entered into an agreement with the Generator Group in 2021 for them to take forward the development of the site, in view of the upcoming NP, one would have expected the Council to ensure their developer undertook early community consultation as part of the process. It seems that the crucial significance of the NP was overlooked by the Council who chose not to do so.
Recently Councillors were instructed not to meet with local residents to listen to their views over the proposed development of the OBP site, on the dubious grounds that listening to their constituents would create a “conflict of interest”. The real conflict of interest, of course, is that Hastings Borough Council will decide a planning application that is to their financial benefit. One that will be submitted by an applicant selected by the Council. Discussions have taken place behind closed doors between the chosen developer and the Council with no community consultation despite the site being in a declared NP area. Is it likely that the officers and Councillors involved will make an objective assessment of the proposals or take heed of any community concerns?
The proposals recently revealed by the Generator Group are disappointing to say the least. We have reached what used to be described as “the ink’s dried on the paper” stage of a developer presenting very specific proposals in the guise of “community consultation”, with a vested interest in resisting any significant changes that might be suggested by the community. Had the Council required the developer, as part of their brief, to consult with the community at an early concept stage this might have been avoided.
It is still not too late to argue for changes as a planning application has not yet been submitted, but then we come back to the potential conflict of interest. The decision cannot be left to a Council who are already in partnership with their chosen developer. It needs to be referred to the Secretary of State responsible for planning. In fact, it could be argued that a Local Authority that will soon be defunct should have the sense not press on with this proposal in the face of so much public opposition but put it in in abeyance pending the creation of a new authority.
Further posts including a design critique of Generator Group’s proposals will follow.
Queen’s Arcade (2 December 2022)



Following an application from HUDG in April 2021 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport has decided to add Queen’s Arcade, Hastings to the List of Buildings of Special Architectural or Historic Interest. The building is now listed at Grade II. This should give an additional level of protection to the Arcade which forms an important part of Hastings’ Victorian ‘New Town’.
Opened in 1882, the Arcade is a fine example of a small town shopping arcade in typical Victorian style, largely unaltered from its original form with the exception of more modern security shutters at each end. A less common component to its prime commercial purpose of 16 shops to let is the first floor Assembly Rooms (now a dance studio) an important venue for the town in its day with its entrance in York Gardens. The Arcade adjoins the former Gaiety Theatre and Opera House (now the Odeon), also opened in 1882.
Something New In The Old Town (24 October 2022)




On Saturday 22 October 2022 there was an interesting new arrival in Hastings Old Town – a full sized example of a low carbon, eco-friendly, relocatable, pre-fabricated single bedroom housing unit from Holland – known as Stijl One.
The unit is temporarily stored on the Roebuck Centre site, off the Bourne, awaiting relocation to another site. Whilst on the Roebuck site the unit will be opened as a ‘show house’, by appointment, to interested parties who might wish to explore the opportunities and benefits offered by this type of housing unit. Installation of the unit took less than two hours on a prepared site, though no service connections were made as the unit is not intended to be occupied.
Stijl One is the smallest unit of a range of Dutch prefabricated housing offered by Stijl House Eco Homes, a local Hastings company based at the Roebuck Centre (see www. stijlhomes.co.uk).
Harold Place (5 April 2022)



HBC have recently refused planning permission for their proposed restaurant in Harold Place as it was “not fit for purpose”. Whilst this statement refers specifically to the submitted plans perhaps it should also call into question whether the basic concept is “fit for purpose”?
HUDG, along with many others, believe that the idea of building in Harold Place is at odds with HBC’s own Seafront Strategy, which states the intention to:
“Improve the urban realm and linkages between Hastings Town Centre and the beach and promenade to maximise their mutual benefit. An urban design brief to address this will be developed.
Harold Place is arguably the worst and least welcoming point of access to the beach and promenade along the whole seafront. Neither the Town Centre nor the seafront achieves their potential here”.
“The issue could be addressed by reconfiguring the pedestrian routes and public realm at Harold Place, with options to create a linear piazza and pocket park …. landscaping and animation on the beach itself, and “shared space” or other pedestrian-friendly measures.” Abstracts from Hastings Seafront Strategy 2015.
The current Garden Town proposals, details of which are still not available to the public, would surely be enhanced by ‘greening’ this space, in line with the Seafront Strategy, rather than losing it to a new building. Such a landscape proposal would fit very well with:
“The project proposals includes infrastructure for improved walking and cycling throughout the town, cycle parklets, general enhanced public realm, infrastructure for markets and festivals and an interwoven lighting and public art project. The objective being to increase dwell time, visitor numbers generating higher spend and attracting new investment.” Abstract from the current Hastings Town Deal.
Our Urban Room page (link) provides a place-making critique of of HBC’s current proposals and an illustration of a possible alternative approach to the highly questionable ‘investment’ of building a publicly funded restaurant on what could be an attractive civic space.
The illustrations are intentionally schematic and are provided to promote public debate and perhaps persuade HBC that there would be a loss of opportunity to provide a genuine improvement to the town if the prosed build went ahead. After all, there are plenty of existing, often struggling, restaurants in town and a fair number of empty buildings that could be refurbished to accommodate a new one, should there be a viable commercial demand. Refurbishment usually offers a lower carbon footprint than a new build and appears to be gaining favour with some councillors, including Cllr Paul Barnett, newly elected leader of the Council:
“….. our priority now has to be to protect and invest in our green spaces, and wherever possible reuse existing buildings rather than build new ones.” (referring to the Council’s decision not to build on Tilekiln Recreation Ground.
St Leonards Church (11 November 2021)

HUDG members are currently involved in two exciting ideas for the St Leonard’s church site both of which were presented at a meeting on 21st October in St Leonards Masonic Hall. The first being the ‘Science-on-Sea’ museum concept and the second being a community focused initiative. The latter proposes community housing on the long abandoned adjacent ‘concrete frame’ site, and community group usage of the church, including the possibility of using the space as a centre for rock climbing and concerts. The proposals will require a Community Land Trust model in order to develop the ideas and to help access the necessary funds. An alternative to these two suggestions is private ownership which, although it might secure the future of the building, would mean the loss of a valuable potential community asset.
The process of forming a ‘steering’ committee, to deal with the future of the church, is underway and is being organised by the West St Leonards Forum. Viable options will be presented to the committee, once formed, and then to the diocese of Chichester who will ultimately decide the fate of the church. The first major issue to confront, is stabilisation of the cliff behind the church (one of the hot topics of the meeting) which HUDG is progressing, with the help of the West St Leonard’s and Burton’s St Leonards Societies.
There was a lot of optimism at the meeting and it was exciting to see so many people who care greatly about the future of the church – watch this space!
Local press coverage can be viewed here:
The Future of White Rock (20 July 2021)



You may remember the publication by HBC of the White Arkitekter Master Plan for White Rock (see https://hastingsonlinetimes.co.uk/hot-topics/home-ground/white-rock-masterplan). That proposal, if carried out, would destroy much of the green space at White Rock and Summerfields in order to build an urban development more suited to a major city than a small seaside town. More than 700 comments were submitted to the Council by the public but none have been published. The obvious conclusion is that there was no community support for destroying yet another of our green spaces.
It is interesting to note that White Rock Gardens and Summerfields were bought from the Brisco estate in 1902 by the then Council to preserve the open space between Hastings and St Leonards and to create a public pleasure garden overlooking the sea. It is a great pity that our current Council does not share that vision.
Recently a suggestion has emerged for a development in the Gardens which is much more sympathetic, one which respects, enhances, and adds to the value of the green space and it’s origins as a public pleasure garden – a new Winter Garden (see https://hastingsonlinetimes.co.uk/hastings-life/green-times/a-covered-botanic-garden-for-hastings)
HUDG fully support commissioning a feasibility study to examine the viability of this initiative, and would like to see it as the start of a wider re-imagining of the future of White Rock Gardens by the community with a view to keeping this valuable open space as a pleasure garden.
Unlike the somewhat belated community involvement in the White Arkitekter report, there have been a number of previous studies about the Gardens which sought to fully engage the public from the very start to try to identify what they thought the future of the Gardens should be, two of which can be viewed here:
http://www.nickwates.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/White-Rock-Masterplan-A4.pdf
http://www.nickwates.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GWRPSummaryMaster-8-1-1.pdf
There are some common themes running through those two reports, the major ones being that the Gardens should be kept as a green space for public enjoyment, the other that some investment was needed to improve, and to add to the attractions. A brief summary of the suggestions ranged across:
- Better routes to and through the Gardens
- Additional significant structure planting
- Retention of the Oval as a venue for more large scale events
- A smaller outdoor performance space in the form of an amphitheatre
- A landmark building (a 1066 Visitor Centre?)
- Enhanced landscape features including play areas
- An improved skate park
The Hastings Greenway Trust, working with the community, is well placed to propose a series of better routes to and through the Gardens and to develop proposals for structure planting, but a wider holistic approach to reinvigorating the Gardens as public open space needs a wider community base. Over the next few weeks HUDG will be developing this theme on the Urban Room pages of their website to encourage debate.
Great News! (8 June 2021) – Town Fund
HBC has been awarded £24.3m from their Town Fund bid – a little short of the £27m they applied for, but a major success.
Which projects didn’t make the final cut is not known, nor is there much information about the ones that did make it through. You can check out HBC’s Town Fund webpage here, but it has scant details to offer.
One thing that is clear from HBC’s web page and from the Government announcement, HBC intend to focus on developing Hastings Castle as a major visitor attraction, though no details are currently available.
Meanwhile in the absence of any such detail HUDG offer a few thoughts on their Urban Room page about the issues that might be considered in developing the detail of the proposals.
Hastings Local Plan Update (2 April 2021) – Beyond the Consultation Stage
The Local Plan by its very nature is a somewhat fragmented and complex document. Policies and site allocations tend to be dealt with as separate issues, but of course they are not. It is time for some joined up thinking.
Obviously the Council has some difficult issues to resolve in looking forward to 2039, but it is disconcerting to find that at times, in the past, they have chosen to ignore their own policies. Will the current crop of policies and objectives enshrined in the Draft Local Plan suffer the same fate? Policies need to be clear, decision making consistent, and outcomes measurable, but above all the Council need to be seen to respect those policies, both in their own proposals and in dealing with planning applications by others.
Examples of the Council’s past selective approach and lack of consistency are many but a couple will suffice to make the point:
A policy to protect and enhance existing green space is apparently to be flouted by their proposal to build on a recreation ground at Bulverhythe, and potentially at White Rock. Yet “loss of green space” is quoted as one of the reasons for refusing permission for four houses on private land elsewhere. Surely it is time for some consistency?
A policy to adopt measures to ensure a carbon neutral future are apparently to be flouted, again at Bulverhythe, by a “maybe we will, maybe we won’t” approach to adopting renewable energy sources. What value is the intention to achieve a carbon neutral goal if the Council do not follow their own policies?
Many residents have commented on the Draft Local Plan including Nick Chitty whose personal views can be read here and should be read alongside the Draft Local Plan.
Initial reports from the Council suggest they have received over 1000 comments, but it is unclear whether this figure relates to the number of comments received or to the number of people who have commented.
It remains to be seen what notice, if any, HBC take of these comments. If the still unpublished 700+ comments on their White Rock Master Plan are anything to go by, then one might conclude that little or no notice will be taken
Is Hastings Council Delusional?



The Site Allocation Schedule section of the draft Local Plan (Site reference TC2) refers specifically to “the town square which is in front of the station”.
In reality, as can be seen in the photos above, what we have is a few bus stops, a traffic island and a parking lot. Hardly a civic space.
Past proposals from MBM, BDP and Rummey Associates, amongst others, offered the prospect of a civic space as a fitting gateway to Hastings. All apparently shelved, without community consultation, in favour of a traffic engineers “vision” which does nothing to enhance the perception or enjoyment of the town.
As part of the Local Plan review, and in light of the less than detailed aspirations of the Town Fund Bid, is it not time for the Council to show some evidence of joined-up thinking?
The current fragmented proposals for the town centre, embodied in the Local Plan and the Town Fund Bid, need a comprehensive review, based on past studies, and current aspirations to develop an over-arching vision that in addition to other improvements, could deliver a welcoming civic space in front of the station, which at the moment is just a figment of the Council’s imagination.
Town Fund




HUDG, led by Chris Lewcock (former Chair), have put in a £2.5m detailed proposal to the Town Board in an attempt to secure funding for a significant renewal project for St Leonards centred around the now disused St Leonards Parish Church.
Essentially the proposals include bringing the church back into use as a “Science on Sea” museum, stabilisation of the cliff behind the church, creation of a new public plaza, and completing the long abandoned site on Undercliff with a small housing development.
Further details can be found in the Hastings Online Times article which can be accessed via the following link:
Proposed Changes to the Planning System
Is the problem of too few houses being built really the fault of our, admittedly less than perfect, planning system?
According to recently published statistics it would appear not. On average across the UK the success rate for planning applications is 86%. Also across the UK over 400,000 houses with planning permission remain unbuilt, many of which have had permissions in place for over three years.
See the Guardian article for more details:
LGA housing spokesman Cllr David Renard has said:
“The planning system is not a barrier to house building. The number of homes granted planning permission has far outpaced the number of homes being built. No-one can live in a planning permission, or a half-built house where work on a site has begun but not been completed. Councils need powers to tackle our housing backlog and step in where a site with planning permission lies dormant and house building has stalled. If we are to solve our housing shortage, councils need to be able to get building again and resume their role as major builders of affordable homes.”
Perhaps more and better resources should be allocated to speeding up the current system, with penalties in place for those developers who unjustifiably fail to deliver, and powers granted to local authorities to take over and complete stalled developments? Why go to the disruptive trouble and expense of building a new machine when the existing one can be modified?
Hastings Online Times has also published an article giving the individual views of two members of HUDG: